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We get why the rules are in place, but dislike the policy that the house split applies to a tip as well as the negotiated party price. 

Because of this, we tend to put our entire party budget up during negotiations and don't practice tipping in LPIN.  IF this policy was changed, we'd probably enjoy tipping to help the ladies out more. 

How about you guys?  What makes you reconsider your "normal" when it comes to tipping? 

I used to always tip a Ben if the party was good, but some houses with their imposed pricing structure have curtailed that significantly.  I would much rather tip the lady than the house. 

Some say the best tip is to give the ladies repeat business.  Although for those of us who aren't local and/or can't visit often, that's not always an option.  Like most service professions, I like to tip based on the quality of services provided, but when the house takes 50%, then I tend to tip less frequently and often just include it within the negotiated party price.  Some houses have policies where even gifts above a certain dollar value has to be split with the house, so the ladies end up having to pay the house half of the retail value.  From what I've been told, the brothels do this to prevent ladies from making side deals with customers, but I think there needs to be more trust between the houses and their ladies, since this is 2019 and not the Joe Conforte era.

The only brothels that I'm aware of where the ladies get to keep 100% of their tips are Mona's/Inez, so I have to give Kudos to Louis and wish other owners would consider doing the same.

I don't understand "tipping" when it comes to the ladies and if you understand what I do. I don't tip any of the working ladies cash. I do give gifts, for different reasons. Sometimes I just feel like it on a whim. Sometimes it's because of a great party or fond memory or a birthday or just to cheer her up. I don't give gifts just because I had a party with a lady but sometimes I do. I have given many gifts over the years to ladies that I have never partied with and never will, so do you call that tips. My gifts can be actual items or gift cards, the online eGift cards are easy for me, I don't even have to see the lady, I can send the egift card to her email even long after I have left the ranches. I have never had a complaint from any lady that I sent her an amazon.com egift card to her email address, and she didn't want it. 

Tips are nice, and gifts are nice too. It’s great to feel appreciated after a party. But if you put all of your party budget up front, you could potentially get a longer party that way and it’s better to get more bang for your buck

I don't tip.  I do gifts.

RoxyGold link wrote: Tips are nice, and gifts are nice too. It’s great to feel appreciated after a party. But if you put all of your party budget up front, you could potentially get a longer party that way and it’s better to get more bang for your buck

Thanks for the tip Roxy..  we will use this advice 

I'll tip more if the house changes their split regarding the tip.  I want to tip the lady, not the house.

That answer is bullshit. That is just an excuse to tip less. If you want to tip 100 for example and decide to tip less because you don't like that the brothel gets 50% then she gets less.

The 50% is a business agreement between us and the brothel. It is really no concern of anyone outside of us and the brothel. Sure you can have an opinion but you shouldn't worry about what our cut. You're not giving us what you originally wanted to.  You will not change anything. That is for us to do.

Sorry but I am tired of people worrying about our business decisions. There are tens of thousands of jobs outside of brothel work. No one makes a girl work here. Peole act like this is the only job for women.

Rachel Varga link wrote: Sorry but I am tired of people worrying about our business decisions. ...

I guess our answer (and our selection as a possible answer for the quiz) was Bullshit then.

Our personal choice however, on whether to tip or not has NOTHING to do with "your business decisions".  It's all about OUR intent of our tip. 

Regardless of the service we agree to a sum of money for a service provided.  THAT is a "business decision" which can be agreed to or not.  At the point of agreement however, in our opinion, the financial portion of the business is over and the level of service is established. 

If  we want to reward the person who directly provided us a service with additional compensation (a tip), we would prefer to believe all of our money was going to that person.  This is NOT a "business decision" it is our choice, and the business policy regarding  that tip can affect our desire to do so. 

That is no more telling the business what their policy should be, than the business telling us we should tip.  Both are free to do whatever they feel is right. 

At the a Mustang at least if you want the Lady to get it & not the house you can spend a couple bucks & get them a visa gift card.
I think a $50 gift card at Walmart goes for about $54. Win/win: Lady gets her money & you save $

Or you can just send a gift that is agreed on ahead of time.

No tip!

Actually in the here and now I simply can't afford the tip. I just pay as much as I can on the actual party.

But even back in the day when I had at least a little wiggle room in the budget up to and prior to 2013. I never tipped in house I just spent it on the actual party. Tipping after was of no benefit because they had to report the tips.

If that is still the standard even if I could afford a tip I wouldn't give it after the party. Its the same if you book it all at the time of the Party or you give her a little more after she still has to split with the house.

All that being said back when Kristine was still around her and I had a system. I won't expand on that further.? I also spent her several virtual Amazon gift cards of various amounts to a email address she had back then that was not attached to whatever Ranch. She was working out of at the time.

So at least with her we had a system for the one thing that we refined as the years rolled on, and she also got a lot of virtual Amazon gift cards that she usually probably spent on girl stuff.

Anyway if the rules are still the same as they were back in the years I could have considered tipping where all cash tips were subject to the 50 50 split with the house there is no benefit to a cash tip after the party. Just give it to her at the time of booking.

Unless it makes you feel better to do so after. Just keep in mind unless the ranches have changed the rules in the last 7 years cash tips still fall under the 50 50 split.  It just means the official paperwork is done a little differently.

Rachel Varga link wrote:
The 50% is a business agreement between us and the brothel. It is really no concern of anyone outside of us and the brothel. Sure you can have an opinion but you shouldn't worry about what our cut. You're not giving us what you originally wanted to.  You will not change anything. That is for us to do.

Sorry but I am tired of people worrying about our business decisions. There are tens of thousands of jobs outside of brothel work. No one makes a girl work here. Peole act like this is the only job for women.

Gotta side with MWC on this.

And the fact of the splits very existence DOES affect my decision.
Call me a cheap rotten bastard, but the tip goes to the provider - NOT the house.

What did the house do to merit the tip ?

The question was. What would make you tip or tip more. A tip is optional. If you had a great time or like the lady and you have the extra money well he’ll ya. A tip would be nice. Some houses let you keep the tip others must be split. Some you must give tip in if it’s over a certain amount. I seem to get more gifts than cash. I get flowers, and many gift cards and do not split them with house. Especially when I get chocolate as a gift. I don’t believe we should have to give our tips I. At all. The way I look at is is we worked hard to make that person happy . We deserve it but. The rules are the rules. Yes I agree. Repeat business is the best and the repeat business is greater than the monetary value you can receive as a tip.
XO Vanity

If you tip less because the lady only gets 50% then she is making less.

When I say business decision I am talking about us and the brothels which is our business.

Tipping is not a business decision. It is part of a transaction that is based on YOUR decision not mine. I signed the contract with the brothei, so I agreed to 50/50. No one should worry about my business desicion.

Frankly I don't care if people tip or not but if you believe I should receive a tip based on my services and then decide to make it lower because you don't like 50/50 then you are paying me less than what you were going to before.

Pay what you want.

How hard is it to see this.  Simply. That way of thinking means we make less so protest some other way,  not a way that hurts our income.

How hard is it to see (or at least acknowledge) the other side of the coin?

What?!?!  Do I need to double the tip, so that your income isn't hurt?

Gifts and Flowers, etc. are fine ideas, but let's face facts here.
You can't spend flowers & chocolate. 
You can't apply flowers & chocolate to a (providers) car payment or credit card balance.

You (as an example) get a bouquet delivered one or two days after our party.
You (hopefully) will appreciate them.....but I can (almost) guarantee that you won't associate them with me or with our party.

Worse (from my POV) you'll associate them with some other customer, and I will get zero credit/appreciation for my "Tip"



This discussion still begs the basic question though:
What did the "House" do to warrant a tip?

If you cannot at least acknowledge the question, then please let me change my vote to become "Not only NO, but HELL NO !"

OlderPhart link wrote: How hard is it to see (or at least acknowledge) the other side of the coin?

What?!?!  Do I need to double the tip, so that your income isn't hurt?

She already said she doesn’t care if you tip. She has already said she accepts & has no problem that the house gets half.
No where did she ever imply you should double your tip.
Tips are entirely up to you. If you want the Lady to get $50 then you need to tip $100. Not hard to understand.
She accepts the House gets half, that’s the agreement she made & is happy with it. Why do you care so much?!? The Lady is happy with the arrangement why are you so upset?
Why do you have the right to know why the house gets half?
Answer: you don’t but she already told you, because she agreed to it!

OlderPhart link wrote:i
How hard is it to see (or at least acknowledge) the other side of the coin?

What?!?!  Do I need to double the tip, so that your income isn't hurt?

Gifts and Flowers, etc. are fine ideas, but let's face facts here.
You can't spend flowers & chocolate. 
You can't apply flowers & chocolate to a (providers) car payment or credit card balance.

You (as an example) get a bouquet delivered one or two days after our party.
You (hopefully) will appreciate them.....but I can (almost) guarantee that you won't associate them with me or with our party.

Worse (from my POV) you'll associate them with some other customer, and I will get zero credit/appreciation for my "Tip"



This discussion still begs the basic question though:
What did the "House" do to warrant a tip?

If you cannot at least acknowledge the question, then please let me change my vote to become "Not only NO, but HELL NO !"

I'll reply one by one.

I am pretty certain I understand this debate so the "coin" doesn't apply.

All this supposes that a person had a tip price in mind but changed it. Correct? So if you double tip it's just changing the initial amount you were thinking about which means we would lose money on that. Hahaha. You can't get around us losing money if you in any way change the very first amount you thought of.

You have a party
You think of tip amount / 100
Yoy decide less because we don't get full amount / 50
We lose money

Items that are monetary don't translate to money,  you are correct,  but if that is what you thought of first then this gift doesn't relate to getting half because it was not your intention to give money anyways.  It doesn't apply to the debate on 50/50 tip.

If you put your name on the gift we will know it's you. I can remember a name. Sometimes guys will say something like,  "Remember me. We talked about how much we love Candy Crush? " then I definitly remember. Lol

What does it matter what the house does to warrant a tip? What do you think they should do?

The original question was about the customer's decision to pay a girl less because they don't agree to the terms of the contract she has with her employer. Do you pay a waitress less because you don't like her manager?

This is fun. We must do it more sometime.

SixT9er link wrote: She already said she doesn’t care if you tip. She has already said she accepts & has no problem that the house gets half.
No where did she ever imply you should double your tip.
Tips are entirely up to you. If you want the Lady to get $50 then you need to tip $100. Not hard to understand.
She accepts the House gets half, that’s the agreement she made & is happy with it. Why do you care so much?!? The Lady is happy with the arrangement why are you so upset?
Why do you have the right to know why the house gets half?
Answer: you don’t but she already told you, because she agreed to it!

SHE may accept that the house gets half.
My question is STILL:  What did the house do to warrant ANY Tip?

Rachel Varga link wrote:

The original question was about the customer's decision to pay a girl less because they don't agree to the terms of the contract she has with her employer. Do you pay a waitress less because you don't like her manager?

This is fun. We must do it more sometime.

Actually, the original question was:

... but is there anything that would make you change or increase your ideas about tipping?


And one of the offered answers was:
I'll tip more if the house changes their split regarding the tip.  I want to tip the lady, not the house.

And I replied with my changes about tipping.

And if I choose to tip the lady, I want the tip to go to the lady - not the house.

>This is fun. We must do it more sometime.
This IS fun.  Lets.