The backlash from working at home?

[SIDEWINDER]

It sounds like a great idea for those who can do it but is it?  If people are working from home, they are not supporting local restaurants. They are not buying things on the way to or from work.  I wish I would have copied the link when I read the article but one major company said since people are living in lower cost areas, is it fair for a  company to still be paying big city wages considering employees are working from home?  My biggest fear would be companies saying wait, it they can do these jobs from home, why not get foreign workers to do the jobs at a fraction of the cost from their homes. Think it can't happen? How many times have you called customer service to discover it's someone from a foreign country?  Now there's some jobs that cannot be done by workers in foreign countries but what about many that could?  [/size]

[georoc01]

All I can say is that we have plenty of headaches with our overseas IBM workers. Nuance gets lost. If you can literally spell out what you need and provide every detail spelled out, they are great. But need outside the box thinking? Forget about it. Plus you work with opposite work schedules due to the time difference.

I expect that it will be a mix. What we are talking about is sharing an office with 3 other teams with each one coming in for one week a month. Cuts workspace costs by 2/3rds, yet still allows for in person contact. Something that's getting lost right now.

I can see wework workspaces becoming more popular where teams can meet when needed rather than leasing workspace full time.

[MrTShirt]

All I can say is that we have plenty of headaches with our overseas IBM workers. Nuance gets lost. If you can literally spell out what you need and provide every detail spelled out, they are great. But need outside the box thinking? Forget about it. Plus you work with opposite work schedules due to the time difference....

No surprise here.  Same experience as other companies.  It often takes 3 foreign workers to equal one US worker.

[Funmonger]

I usually wind up asking that they transfer me to an American location for service. I also feel less secure about information being shared offshore for some reason. Every business has at its roots a need for trust.

[SIDEWINDER]

All I can say is that we have plenty of headaches with our overseas IBM workers. Nuance gets lost. If you can literally spell out what you need and provide every detail spelled out, they are great. But need outside the box thinking? Forget about it. Plus you work with opposite work schedules due to the time difference.

I expect that it will be a mix. What we are talking about is sharing an office with 3 other teams with each one coming in for one week a month. Cuts workspace costs by 2/3rds, yet still allows for in person contact. Something that's getting lost right now.

I can see wework workspaces becoming more popular where teams can meet when needed rather than leasing workspace full time.

I know what you are saying--boy do I ever.  Talking to a customer service rep who spoke perfect English but I had the feeling she couldn't understand one word I was saying.  Really frustrating waiting on hold while they kept playing a recording telling me how important my call was to them while I was thinking if my call was really that important to them, they would not make me wait 20 minutes.  Bottom line is for many companies, they just look at how much money they can  save.  I just hate to see even more jobs leave America for other low wage countries. [/size]

[rachelvarga]

All I can say is that we have plenty of headaches with our overseas IBM workers. Nuance gets lost. If you can literally spell out what you need and provide every detail spelled out, they are great. But need outside the box thinking? Forget about it. Plus you work with opposite work schedules due to the time difference.

I expect that it will be a mix. What we are talking about is sharing an office with 3 other teams with each one coming in for one week a month. Cuts workspace costs by 2/3rds, yet still allows for in person contact. Something that's getting lost right now.

I can see wework workspaces becoming more popular where teams can meet when needed rather than leasing workspace full time.

You said something so true. Many overseas workers can't think outside the box. If you tell them an asteroid hit the box outside so you have no Internet they will ask you to restart the modem.

Here's one. A bunch of people in the neighborhood suddenly dropped from 1gig to 400mb and so I had a friend who works in the industry call and tell them that my service wasn't working. Suddenlink wants send a tech. He asks them to run the account through provisioning because something was changed and it happened to people around me at night so most likely they did something in the maintenance window. (All my neighbors had exact same issue that same time)

Suddenlink says they need to send a tech. This shit goes on and on my friend just cuts them off asks, "Do you have access to provision a line?" they say yes so he says just try it. To provision the account down to 400 and back to 1 gig. Finally they give in and do it. Ten minutes later it was back at 1 gig.

They don't want to get off that script.

Wait. It gets better. I want the TV service right. They give me a deal and send an installer and he hooks it up but the system is down and he leaves. So I have to call in and reschedule. Next guy nevers shows up and I get an automated message to call and reschedule. I just cancelled it. I have to call them?

So I solved the issue in three minutes. I got Youtube TV. Just like cable with all the same channels and local. The menu is like cable menu but nicer. It's genius. Yottube just copied the cable service gui and made it cleaner so people will buy it because they are used to that style menu. Unlike Hulu which has the most fucked up menu I have ever seen.

Solution. Get rid of cable and get Youtube TV. Same channels and the shit works.

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[georoc01]

I believe the challenge is that unless you actually been in the box, its very hard to think outside it. I can describe the box all day, but its far different than being in a situations yourself and having to work your way out of it.

Its the same issue with machine learning. I can teach a computer to do alot of menial tasks. But teaching how to actually think when you have insufficient data, or an situation that hasn't been experienced or previously thought of and addressed, is a whole other level that is really, really challenging.

The world isn't fixed, its a dynamic set of circumstances that are constantly changing.

The pandemic created a whole different set of variables to every equation that we had never factored in before. All of a sudden everyone is remote, so any set of directions that has someone doing something in person doesn't work anymore.

And its not like we hadn't experienced a pandemic before, but its been a 100 years and when you work for a company that is 75 years old, no one has ever built those factors in.

I remember my first job out of college was getting rid of single digit year logic out of computer code at Kodak. IT was coming up at the end of a decade and the systems would fail if we didn't get it addressed. Why would anyone use a single digit year? Well when the system was originally written the cost of storage was so high, that ever byte mattered. Over the course of a decade that changed and storage was much cheaper. So since it was the 80's, we decided we get ahead of the game and convert everything to a 4 digit year so we'd be ahead of the game in for the Y2k problem.

Of course, that didn't matter because Kodak itself became obsolete by the time the Y2k problem would have been a problem. None of us in the 80's realized that everyone would have a digital camera on their phone and none of these systems would be even needed by the year 2000.

[Banginit]

You said something so true. Many overseas workers can't think outside the box. If you tell them an asteroid hit the box outside so you have no Internet they will ask you to restart the modem.

Here's one. A bunch of people in the neighborhood suddenly dropped from 1gig to 400mb and so I had a friend who works in the industry call and tell them that my service wasn't working. Suddenlink wants send a tech. He asks them to run the account through provisioning because something was changed and it happened to people around me at night so most likely they did something in the maintenance window. (All my neighbors had exact same issue that same time)

Suddenlink says they need to send a tech. This shit goes on and on my friend just cuts them off asks, "Do you have access to provision a line?" they say yes so he says just try it. To provision the account down to 400 and back to 1 gig. Finally they give in and do it. Ten minutes later it was back at 1 gig.

They don't want to get off that script.

Wait. It gets better. I want the TV service right. They give me a deal and send an installer and he hooks it up but the system is down and he leaves. So I have to call in and reschedule. Next guy nevers shows up and I get an automated message to call and reschedule. I just cancelled it. I have to call them?

So I solved the issue in three minutes. I got Youtube TV. Just like cable with all the same channels and local. The menu is like cable menu but nicer. It's genius. Yottube just copied the cable service gui and made it cleaner so people will buy it because they are used to that style menu. Unlike Hulu which has the most fucked up menu I have ever seen.

Solution. Get rid of cable and get Youtube TV. Same channels and the shit works.

Rachel Varga
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rachelbomb.com
twitter.com/rachelbombx

yeah i need high speed so i checked everyone here said dont get the cable xfiniry, check if fiber is running. It was n had a fiber cable run here, I got rid of cable last year w much kickin n screaming from DirectTv, was a pain in the Ass to cancel long story.  Hulu does suck, but i dont like netflix or Disney plus or interface either.  I just want a whats on now... i have Ruko so it lets me search all of what i have.

[rachelvarga]

yeah i need high speed so i checked everyone here said dont get the cable xfiniry, check if fiber is running. It was n had a fiber cable run here, I got rid of cable last year w much kickin n screaming from DirectTv, was a pain in the Ass to cancel long story.  Hulu does suck, but i dont like netflix or Disney plus or interface either.  I just want a whats on now... i have Ruko so it lets me search all of what i have.

Yeah that's why I like Youtube Tv. The menu is familiar and easy to navigate.

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[Lee]

Backlash is of course inevitable. After all, how are most of these 'work from home' people defining work? By pushing buttons on a computer just like I am right now. Pushing buttons on a computer will never weld steel, lay shingles, pour concrete, fix a flat, cook food, trim trees, do a hot brothel fuck, stock store shelves, weed a field of cotton, install parts on an assembly line, etc., etc., etc.  Running up the national debt isn't work - it's just a promise that our children and grandchildren will work and repay it. Convincing them that work is work - not button pushing - seems to be getting harder as time passes.

[NavySteve]

Too bad the LPIN ladies can't work from home.

[SIDEWINDER]

Too bad the LPIN ladies can't work from home.

Oh, but many do work from home.  Washing, ironing, house cleaning and cooking plus taking care of the rug rats.[/size]