Hospital workers refusing to get vaccine?[/size]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/houst ... d=msedgdhp
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JimDiGriz
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I'll grant that it says this in general:
"Vaccine hesitancy has been high among frontline health care workers in the United States: . . . A March 2021 survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that health care workers had concerns about the vaccines' newness and their possible side effects, both of which are common reasons for waiting to be vaccinated."
, but then in this specific case it refers to the 117 people as "staff members" or "employees". So we don't know if they're administering health care (e.g. doctors/nurses) or if they're something like clerical staff who never see patients. If it's the latter then it doesn't make them risk-free, but it's a lot less danger to patients than front-line staff. The article really should've checked on this.
"Vaccine hesitancy has been high among frontline health care workers in the United States: . . . A March 2021 survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that health care workers had concerns about the vaccines' newness and their possible side effects, both of which are common reasons for waiting to be vaccinated."
, but then in this specific case it refers to the 117 people as "staff members" or "employees". So we don't know if they're administering health care (e.g. doctors/nurses) or if they're something like clerical staff who never see patients. If it's the latter then it doesn't make them risk-free, but it's a lot less danger to patients than front-line staff. The article really should've checked on this.
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SIDEWINDER
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Well--- we do know the one heading up the protest is a nurse.
"Jennifer Bridges, a nurse who led the Houston Methodist protest, has cited the lack of full F.D.A. approval for the shots"
"Jennifer Bridges, a nurse who led the Houston Methodist protest, has cited the lack of full F.D.A. approval for the shots"
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raving loon
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Do you really blame them for not wanting to being guinea pigs for something that's still technically experimental. I know at least one person who died where the vaccine was a factor in his death. I will admit that I don't know if the vaccine itself did him in or if it just added to it given his probable COVID exposure. All I know is he went into the hospital 3 days after getting and he died after being there for almost three weeks. Believe it or not some people do have side effects, like the friend of my sister's who broke out into a full body rash after his.
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MrTShirt
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Have you forgotten the COVID vaccines are still labeled experimental?SIDEWINDER link wrote: Hospital workers refusing to get vaccine?[/size]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/houston-hospital-workers-walk-out-over-covid-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAKOb4s?ocid=msedgdhp
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SIDEWINDER
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why. Is it really as she said that the vaccine has not been fully approved yet? And if it were fully approved, would she then get one? Or is it political? Or just a case of I'm not going to do something just because someone tells me to do it? As far as people who die because of the vaccine, it might be true but at the same time how many people have died because they didn't get vaccinated? You can't even compare the two. Working in a hospital around people who are already sick, I think the hospital has every right to request employees to be vaccinated. What's next, I'm not going to wash my hand because no one has proven the germs on my hands can make people sick?
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MrTShirt
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Sounds like you have a lot of questions for the FDA.SIDEWINDER link wrote: I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why. Is it really as she said that the vaccine has not been fully approved yet? And if it were fully approved, would she then get one? Or is it political? Or just a case of I'm not going to do something just because someone tells me to do it? As far as people who die because of the vaccine, it might be true but at the same time how many people have died because they didn't get vaccinated? You can't even compare the two. Working in a hospital around people who are already sick, I think the hospital has every right to request employees to be vaccinated. What's next, I'm not going to wash my hand because no one has proven the germs on my hands can make people sick?
Let us know what you find out.
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SIDEWINDER
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NO---That's is no, no questions for the FDA. If so I wouldn't already be fully vaccinated. Just trying to figure out why an educated nurse would not want the vaccine. And also working in a hospital with people who are already sick, why does she think it's her right to not be vaccinated?[/size]
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georoc01
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That's a good question. The expectation is that Pfizer will get full approval next month. Its more a formality at this point. Moderna in August.
Meanwhile the delta variant that devastated India is starting to show up here. The fact is the spread among unvaccinated hasn't changed with the vaccine. There are just fewer people to spread it between.
Meanwhile the delta variant that devastated India is starting to show up here. The fact is the spread among unvaccinated hasn't changed with the vaccine. There are just fewer people to spread it between.
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georoc01
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BTW, you know why this is happening in Houston but not at your Kaiser facilities in California?
Unions.
Because Texas is a right to work state, they have the power to bring in this rule.
Kaiser cannot because it would need to be collectively bargained and the unions are against it.
Unions.
Because Texas is a right to work state, they have the power to bring in this rule.
Kaiser cannot because it would need to be collectively bargained and the unions are against it.
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SIDEWINDER
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I just question where it stops. One day, it's I don't have to be vaccinated to work in the hospital. The next day, it's I refuse to wear a mask and on and on. This nurse has already lost her case in court so what's next? And once again, she is citing the vaccine has not been fully approved but she has to realize after all this time and millions of vaccines given out, it has to be as safe or safer then any other drug you would take.