Troubling Trend?

[SixT9er]

Before I get to my comment I will state these two things:


1. A Lady has a right to ask whatever she chooses and a Client has the right to accept or walk


2, If a Lady has to purchase special Items for a clients special request then the client should pay for the extra and not expect the Lady to just cover it.


Now the troubling trend I've noticed that I noticed starting a year or so ago is some Ladies expecting the client to pay for every minute she spends interacting with the client as in pm's, twitter, emails, parlor time. Some go farther citing getting prepped (shower, hair, makeup etc) for the party as things they should be reimbursed for. I see this very prevalent with Ladies selling "Real GFE" parties.


Most Ladies and the Ladies I respect most view these things as part of the job. Personal correspondence & Parlor time are all part of marketing. Yes this is figured into the party cost but not at an exorbitant fee. The party prep is just part of the job. What the Lady isn't going to do those things anyway?


Yes some clients are time takers but the Lady controls how much time she will give any given client so if she has a guy emailing 50X a day she controls how many times she responds. If she responds to all then its on her for perpetuating the problem.


These "Real GFE" things are out of hand. If the Lady is going to charge for all her correspondence time she should tell the guy up front but what so often happens is this Needy guy corresponds constantly, gets hooked on the Lady then when he shows up for the party gets quoted a price he can't afford. He being usually of low self esteem, not knowing better and being smitten with the Lady will often times go ahead and pay the price and regret it later. Some may see no problem with this scenario as the Lady got paid. I see it as a path to the end of lpin. As more and more Ladies take this approach and ignore the majority of clients who are working class and not looking for that "Real GFE" experience potential clients will look elsewhere for their entertainment. There are only so many needy guys with enough nerve to even look into lpin so the supply will never keep up with the number of Ladies selling it. Yes then the Ladies could back off but I fear by the time that happens it will be too late.


Maybe I'm crazy and lpin will live forever and Ladies will find an unlimited supply of guys looking to spend for correspondence and the high dollar party that goes with it.


I'm thankful to the Ladies who understand my situation and provide the incredible parties they do. I used to consider my parties "GFE" but now I think of the as GFE in bed time nothing more. A few Ladies go further and keep in contact & spend time in the Parlor and thus are giving me the "Real GFE" but not charging for it because just maybe they like me and they like their job and understand that its great business to do so. These Ladies are the cream of the crop and will always get my recommendation.


Just my observation and I hope the trend doesn't continue as I see my lpin days numbered as it is and accelerated if the trend continues

[rachelvarga]

Personally, I think GFE is ridiculous. When I party with guys, I treat them as if I'm their girlfriend. All my blowjobs are GFE, and all my parties are GFE. How can you not be GFE? Act like a robot and say "You may proceed with fucking me"? Lol. It's a marketing term. "Real GFE" is because the old term is losing its effect.


If girls charge for every little thing that is their business. A lot of the girls in LPIN are taught that if you can sell real estate, then you can teach girls to sell sex. No, you can't. The person who said that has a penis and if you have a penis you can't tell a woman how to be a woman. It is arrogant if a man thinks he can teach a girl how to be a courtesan. That just makes cold money machines that produce a wad of cash that burn out once people realize they don't care about them and just want to nickel and dime them.


I have never gone home broke or with anything close to a small amount. Why? Is it because I have blonde hair and big tits? Maybe a little but lots of girls are gorgeous and don't succeed. No, the reason I do well is that I am authentic and real. I act the way I would with a guy in my private life. For me to do this, it means I can only party with those that I deem are worthy of me. I am not some cum bucket; I don't just let every asshole stick his dick in. If I don't like your attitude, demeanor, or you are arrogant, I won't party with you. If I like you, then I am going want to be fun and affectionate.


I just think if you nickel and dime guys then you are going to burn out and fall behind because no one likes that kind of thing in any business.

[niceguy eddie]

My emails or PMs to ladies who I don't know have been along the line of, 'are you going to be available on such and such date?'

The problem is that there seems to be a new breed of guys who seem to want an absurd amount of correspondence before even partying--I mean far beyond asking simple questions and scheduling. They seem to treat selecting a lady to party with at a brothel as though they are emailing a potential mail order bride. Then they seem to want an ongoing email relationship afterwards. 


I am not a lady, I have no idea how to deal with this.This is up to the ladies.  I don't know how to handle it.  On one hand you don't want to alienate a paying client or potential paying client, on the other hand it can become a part time job. 


Also, if the guy is a good customer or a big spender you may want to keep some type of email or text contact with him.

Just because there is email, some people seem think it is okay to abuse it.  I got annoyed on another message board when some guy had the audacity to ask if it is okay to email the ladies even if you don't intend to party with them.

I responded that this is their job time that they are spending answering emails and that the guy is not selecting someone he is going to marry.

I then went on to suggest:

"Look at the ladies photos and what they write about themselves on the brothel websites. Look at their websites and FAQs, read their twitters. Read their posts here.

From there decide on some ladies who you might want to party with and contact them. It's not realistic to expect a long term email exchanges with ladies whom you have never partied with.

If you are looking for a lady penpal, may I suggest http://www.femaleprisonpals.com/ These ladies have lots of time to write and really appreciate the attention and have plenty of time to respond. You will have to do it by snail mail though.

I myself haven't done this because most of the ladies on that site were busted for Meth manufacture or distribution and I was really looking for someone with armed robbery experience--a lady who would be as comfortable in an evening gown in a nice restaurant as she would be in a stocking mask in bank.
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[rachelvarga]

Eddie I fixed that post format for you. I saw some of the words were microscopic. SMF is bad about that.


Okay so back to the topic. I'm pretty generous as any of my guys know. I'm pretty friendly and text or message or whatever. Here is the way I do it. First off I do not have to text anybody back when they text me. I am no ones personal assistant. I will answer when I want to which means when I have time. So if I get a message and it takes an hour or a day then just wait and I will respond. In other words I answer when I want to.


Never text me and say anything like this, "I saw you were on the board but didn't text me". I will tear your ass apart for talking to me like we're married or something.


Never text me more than twice without me answering. It should be like two days unless it is something important. In other words don't text me again unless I haven't responded in at least two days. My life is my life and yours is yours. You wouldn't want me calling you over and over when you're at the table with your wife."


Never ever play a guilt trip on me. I will rip you two assholes. I am easy to talk to and understand we all have issues and that's normal. Sometimes you have a bad day. Sometimes you crash your bike and end up in the ER.


I mean stuff like, "You don't like me anymore." Don't do it.


In other words one text for one text.

[niceguy eddie]

Eddie I fixed that post format for you. I saw some of the words were microscopic. SMF is bad about that.

[/size]It seems to sometimes change my text size for no reason.  When I notice it, I change it back.  If I delete a line between certain paragraphs it seems to do it.[/size]

[SexyLexieJames]

My emails or PMs to ladies who I don't know have been along the line of, 'are you going to be available on such and such date?'

The problem is that there seems to be a new breed of guys who seem to want an absurd amount of correspondence before even partying--I mean far beyond asking simple questions and scheduling. They seem to treat selecting a lady to party with at a brothel as though they are emailing a potential mail order bride. Then they seem to want an ongoing email relationship afterwards. 


I am not a lady, I have no idea how to deal with this.This is up to the ladies.  I don't know how to handle it.  On one hand you don't want to alienate a paying client or potential paying client, on the other hand it can become a part time job. 


Also, if the guy is a good customer or a big spender you may want to keep some type of email or text contact with him.

Just because there is email, some people seem think it is okay to abuse it.  I got annoyed on another message board when some guy had the audacity to ask if it is okay to email the ladies even if you don't intend to party with them.

I responded that this is their job time that they are spending answering emails and that the guy is not selecting someone he is going to marry.

I then went on to suggest:

"Look at the ladies photos and what they write about themselves on the brothel websites. Look at their websites and FAQs, read their twitters. Read their posts here.

From there decide on some ladies who you might want to party with and contact them. It's not realistic to expect a long term email exchanges with ladies whom you have never partied with.

If you are looking for a lady penpal, may I suggest http://www.femaleprisonpals.com/ These ladies have lots of time to write and really appreciate the attention and have plenty of time to respond. You will have to do it by snail mail though.

I myself haven't done this because most of the ladies on that site were busted for Meth manufacture or distribution and I was really looking for someone with armed robbery experience--a lady who would be as comfortable in an evening gown in a nice restaurant as she would be in a stocking mask in bank.
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I still love this everytime you mention it Eddie. As funny as it is, you're right.[/size]
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I don't think simple correspondence to chat a bit about interests and party details is asking too much. That is part of any experience, GFE or not when planning an appointment. However, i[/size]f the client has no plans of visiting any time soon or wants a lot of daily correspondence, I would ask them to reach out to me via sextpanther.com/lexiejames because it's a system whereI am compensated for the time I take to message you and send you pics.

If you have a visit pending, or place a deposit, we can chat more frequently, but by no means daily. I would love to spend all day chatting with potential clients, but I just don't have the time. I need to make sure I am devoting time to everyone who wants to make an appointment so I have consistent business.[/size]
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That being said. Your party cost is never inflated to cover emails, because I manage how much time I give to you. You aren't paying for me to do my hair and makeup because I have to do that every day anyways. The only time you pay extra for pre-party preparations is for anal parties or if I need a specific supply or outfit for an event or roleplay that I can't really use again.[/size]

[SixT9er]

My emails or PMs to ladies who I don't know have been along the line of, 'are you going to be available on such and such date?'

The problem is that there seems to be a new breed of guys who seem to want an absurd amount of correspondence before even partying--I mean far beyond asking simple questions and scheduling. They seem to treat selecting a lady to party with at a brothel as though they are emailing a potential mail order bride. Then they seem to want an ongoing email relationship afterwards. 


I am not a lady, I have no idea how to deal with this.This is up to the ladies.  I don't know how to handle it.  On one hand you don't want to alienate a paying client or potential paying client, on the other hand it can become a part time job. 


Also, if the guy is a good customer or a big spender you may want to keep some type of email or text contact with him.

Just because there is email, some people seem think it is okay to abuse it.  I got annoyed on another message board when some guy had the audacity to ask if it is okay to email the ladies even if you don't intend to party with them.

I responded that this is their job time that they are spending answering emails and that the guy is not selecting someone he is going to marry.

I then went on to suggest:

"Look at the ladies photos and what they write about themselves on the brothel websites. Look at their websites and FAQs, read their twitters. Read their posts here.

From there decide on some ladies who you might want to party with and contact them. It's not realistic to expect a long term email exchanges with ladies whom you have never partied with.

If you are looking for a lady penpal, may I suggest http://www.femaleprisonpals.com/ These ladies have lots of time to write and really appreciate the attention and have plenty of time to respond. You will have to do it by snail mail though.

I myself haven't done this because most of the ladies on that site were busted for Meth manufacture or distribution and I was really looking for someone with armed robbery experience--a lady who would be as comfortable in an evening gown in a nice restaurant as she would be in a stocking mask in bank.
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I still love this everytime you mention it Eddie. As funny as it is, you're right.[/size]

I don't think simple correspondence to chat a bit about interests and party details is asking too much. That is part of any experience, GFE or not when planning an appointment. However, i[/size]f the client has no plans of visiting any time soon or wants a lot of daily correspondence, I would ask them to reach out to me via sextpanther.com/lexiejames because it's a system whereI am compensated for the time I take to message you and send you pics.

If you have a visit pending, or place a deposit, we can chat more frequently, but by no means daily. I would love to spend all day chatting with potential clients, but I just don't have the time. I need to make sure I am devoting time to everyone who wants to make an appointment so I have consistent business.[/size]

That being said. Your party cost is never inflated to cover emails, because I manage how much time I give to you. You aren't paying for me to do my hair and makeup because I have to do that every day anyways. The only time you pay extra for pre-party preparations is for anal parties or if I need a specific supply or outfit for an event or roleplay that I can't really use again.[/size]

I knew I liked you! You get it!

[MrTShirt]

...I have never gone home broke or with anything close to a small amount. Why? Is it because I have blonde hair and big tits? Maybe a little but lots of girls are gorgeous and don't succeed....

I hadn't noticed.  I better get new glasses.

Seriously, a certain amount of interaction is expected and indicates interest, whether LPIN or any other business.  Too much or no interaction is a deal breaker on one side or the other.  Sometimes a gift is given and there is never an acknowledgement.

This is why an established girl is often a better pick.  She knows the ropes, and what is proper and what is excessive.

[Anonymous]

I have found that the more emails you receive and respond to the less the chance you will party. After the initial party then it's cool just don't break the above rules.

[Goldie]

I have found that the more emails you receive and respond to the less the chance you will party. After the initial party then it's cool just don't break the above rules.

As I was reading through this thread this thought occurred to me. Makes perfect sense...people who are actually going to party will probably not push so hard for all this extracurricular communication.


Goldie

[SexyLexieJames]

My emails or PMs to ladies who I don't know have been along the line of, 'are you going to be available on such and such date?'

The problem is that there seems to be a new breed of guys who seem to want an absurd amount of correspondence before even partying--I mean far beyond asking simple questions and scheduling. They seem to treat selecting a lady to party with at a brothel as though they are emailing a potential mail order bride. Then they seem to want an ongoing email relationship afterwards. 


I am not a lady, I have no idea how to deal with this.This is up to the ladies.  I don't know how to handle it.  On one hand you don't want to alienate a paying client or potential paying client, on the other hand it can become a part time job. 


Also, if the guy is a good customer or a big spender you may want to keep some type of email or text contact with him.

Just because there is email, some people seem think it is okay to abuse it.  I got annoyed on another message board when some guy had the audacity to ask if it is okay to email the ladies even if you don't intend to party with them.

I responded that this is their job time that they are spending answering emails and that the guy is not selecting someone he is going to marry.

I then went on to suggest:

"Look at the ladies photos and what they write about themselves on the brothel websites. Look at their websites and FAQs, read their twitters. Read their posts here.

From there decide on some ladies who you might want to party with and contact them. It's not realistic to expect a long term email exchanges with ladies whom you have never partied with.

If you are looking for a lady penpal, may I suggest http://www.femaleprisonpals.com/ These ladies have lots of time to write and really appreciate the attention and have plenty of time to respond. You will have to do it by snail mail though.

I myself haven't done this because most of the ladies on that site were busted for Meth manufacture or distribution and I was really looking for someone with armed robbery experience--a lady who would be as comfortable in an evening gown in a nice restaurant as she would be in a stocking mask in bank.
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I still love this everytime you mention it Eddie. As funny as it is, you're right.[/size]

I don't think simple correspondence to chat a bit about interests and party details is asking too much. That is part of any experience, GFE or not when planning an appointment. However, i[/size]f the client has no plans of visiting any time soon or wants a lot of daily correspondence, I would ask them to reach out to me via sextpanther.com/lexiejames because it's a system whereI am compensated for the time I take to message you and send you pics.

If you have a visit pending, or place a deposit, we can chat more frequently, but by no means daily. I would love to spend all day chatting with potential clients, but I just don't have the time. I need to make sure I am devoting time to everyone who wants to make an appointment so I have consistent business.[/size]

That being said. Your party cost is never inflated to cover emails, because I manage how much time I give to you. You aren't paying for me to do my hair and makeup because I have to do that every day anyways. The only time you pay extra for pre-party preparations is for anal parties or if I need a specific supply or outfit for an event or roleplay that I can't really use again.[/size]

I knew I liked you! You get it!

Aawww, why thank you!

[Cobia]

I have found that the more emails you receive and respond to the less the chance you will party. After the initial party then it's cool just don't break the above rules.

If the lady can't stay in touch with me after the party there won't be another.  It is called respect.

[rachelvarga]

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. When you talk with a potential client. The more you talk before the party the less chance they will actually go through with it. It is like that with anything adult related. The more you tdlk to some on webcam the less the chance they will go private.This is a very bad problem. There are a lot of timewasting assholes.


I don't know what you mean about afterwards but I'm not following anyone around. If a guy writes a review or contacts me then we talk but I don't write anyone. For two reasons. If I did it right I won't need to and the second being that I don't pursue men.


I'm a woman and maybe I'm a traditionalist but that's their part of the chase. Not mine. Hahaha

[SixT9er]

What Cobia is referring to is staying in touch with a Lady after he’s spend significant time and money with her.


Not the initial pre party contact. He feels I believe that if a “relationship” is to continue mutual contact is needed. Not daily or perhaps weekly just timely responses on the occasions he does contact her and feels if she values his company she should also reach out occasionally to say hi etc. if she isn’t willing to do that then he will move on to someone who will.

[Cobia]

What Cobia is referring to is staying in touch with a Lady after he’s spend significant time and money with her.


Not the initial pre party contact. He feels I believe that if a “relationship” is to continue mutual contact is needed. Not daily or perhaps weekly just timely responses on the occasions he does contact her and feels if she values his company she should also reach out occasionally to say hi etc. if she isn’t willing to do that then he will move on to someone who will.

Exactly...thank you.

[niceguy eddie]

If the lady can't stay in touch with me after the party there won't be another.  It is called respect.

Hi, Cobia,


I am trying to get a better understanding on what you are saying.


If you party with a lady do you expect her to stay in contact with you by email?


If so for how long?


How many emails do you expect between parties?


How much time will there be between parties?


thanks

[rachelvarga]

What Cobia is referring to is staying in touch with a Lady after he’s spend significant time and money with her.


Not the initial pre party contact. He feels I believe that if a “relationship” is to continue mutual contact is needed. Not daily or perhaps weekly just timely responses on the occasions he does contact her and feels if she values his company she should also reach out occasionally to say hi etc. if she isn’t willing to do that then he will move on to someone who will.

Exactly...thank you.

Okay now it makes sense.

[Cobia]

If the lady can't stay in touch with me after the party there won't be another.  It is called respect.

Hi, Cobia,


I am trying to get a better understanding on what you are saying.


If you party with a lady do you expect her to stay in contact with you by email?


If so for how long?


How many emails do you expect between parties?


How much time will there be between parties?


thanks

Yes, if I party with a lady I want her to stay in touch after the party.  I have been going out there just over 11 years and had many parties and for the most part the ladies do stay in touch.  Even after leaving LPIN. I have email addresses for many and cell numbers for many.  No I don't bug them about how often they email or call.  Some call just for Happy birthday and Merry Christmas etc..
I made 4 trips out there last year and then 2 and this coming yr. I have no clue yet.  I party at least 3 times a day and do out dates and over-nighters.  No I am not a whale.  Everyone knows that.

[niceguy eddie]

I party at least 3 times a day and do out dates and over-nighters.  No I am not a whale.  Everyone knows that.

By some people's standards that would make you a whale.  Partying 3 times a day would put you in the Peter North category if you could meet two other requirements that I am not going to mention on a family board.


But seriously, it sounds like you are more than a casual client if you party like that--especially if it is with the same ladies.




Here's my thoughts on the whole thing from possibly selecting a lady to keeping in touch afterwards:


In selecting a lady, I try to get a feel for her by her internet posts, social media and livestream appearances.  I get an idea what she offers and will find out more in person when I meet her. 


I don't see the need for a bunch of emails other than to sometimes make sure that she will be there when I will be there.  It is different if you have a special request, be it equipment or clothing that you want the lady to have, or maybe you want to inquire on the possibility of her having a baby kangaroo to watch.[/size]


I try to get there at a time when she will be there--though I am not making a trip with the hopes of meeting one specific lady--I usually have one or two that I have partied with before and others I am interested in meeting and seeing if I want to party with them.  This past visit there were more ladies that I was interested in partying with than I had the time or endurance for.


If there is a specific new lady that I really want to see, I will email her to make sure that she is available when I am in town.  I've only done this twice.  In one situation it resulted in 3 great parties.  In another situation it resulted in me walking away from negotiations because of price reasons and because she gave me the impression that she thought I was a rube.


Now, if you are going there for a limited period of time or in hopes of meeting one particular lady I can completely see emailing her to make sure that she is going to be there and maybe setting an appointment--although I am not big on specific appointments.

Once I party with a lady I have no expectations of further contact.  As far as I am concerned, I am paying for the party itself and anything else is her time.  I generally don't maintain contact with the ladies between visits and don't expect them to maintain contact with me.  It's nice, but I don't expect it and it is not a requirement for me to party with them again.  They have their own lives.[/size]


There have been exceptions where ladies who I partied a lot with have maintained contact.  Sometimes I initiate it--like an email or text to see how they are doing in specific situations.  Sometimes they do.  I try not to push it.  I don't feel comfortable pushing it since it is a paid relationship and contact after the encounters are not something that I have paid for.  Plus, I only made one trip to Reno/Carson City in 2017.


Before I made this trip I texted two ladies who I had partied a lot in the past and whom I wanted to party with in my upcoming visit to let them know that I was coming and to make sure that they would be there. 


Aside from this, once I am in town I may meet a lady who I wasn't aware or or wasn't in my plans and party with her.


As for the ladies and email, I think it is wise to keep in contact with their better clients if they can manage it.  I really can't define how often this should be.


Since now a lot of potential clients seem to want to email the lady a few times before visiting her, it's up to the lady to decide what is best and manageable so that she maximizes her business without wasting her time.

[niceguy eddie]

In reading here and elsewhere I have come to the conclusion that just because I am not a big user of email for contacting the ladies, it  doesn't mean that other people may not have valid reasons for contacting them more than I do without overdoing it.