Page 1 of 1
Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:05 pm
by MrTShirt
Some of the frozen turbine conditions were preventable with "winterized turbines".
https://www.kcrg.com/2021/02/20/iowa-en ... iowa-cold/
Of course, Texas was hit with multiple blows: wind, cold, ice, loss of electricity, loss of natural gas, loss of water, so frozen turbines were only part of the disaster.
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:12 am
by SIDEWINDER
Just like PG&E in CA. Your power company decided to take profit over doing upgrades to keep the Electricity flowing. To power companies, there's no such thing as money set aside from profits for Maintenance and upgrades.
I understand GOV. Abbot is going to make them do it now that the damage is done. I wonder if the people of the state of Texas are going to pay for it with all the law suits that will be filed and the cost of upgrades? BTW: From what I'm understanding, it wasn't just the windmills. It was the whole power grid that failed and the reason for rolling blackouts. [/size]
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:53 pm
by georoc01
A big piece of it was government regulation. Namely, when power usage spiked, the regulations say cut the power to all commercial businesses in order to provide power to residential. Well, that included gas plants, so now you have less gas to power the peaker plants so you have less power, and the cascade of failure contd. This also included water, which without water shut down the nuclear plant.
But yes, there is no penalty for not providing power, other than the lack of revenue from sale.
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:46 am
by Florida Couple
It's a misleading story being spread. 1/2 the turbines froze (supply less than 20% of the power). Nuclear froze and so did gas (comprising 80%). Some news outlets only focus on one portion of the problem. The problem was deregulation in Texas, no one was made to take some of the profits and winterize their equipment. This happened before.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56085733
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:46 am
by SIDEWINDER
Well, just like anything else in the times we now live in, some are now starting to point fingers at political parties or Environmental/clean energy for the Texas grid problems. Not really any different then Covid or anything else. I tend to look at other states that get much colder then Texas for longer periods of time so perhaps Texas needs to take a lesson from these other states.
Is it really true that some folds are now being gouged as much as $1000. per day for electricity?
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:14 pm
by CoriCooper
I don't have much faith in Abbott doing anything about it. There was a miniature version of this exact event in DFW back in 2010 or 2011-- and state officials then vowed to fix the issues. Then nothing was done.
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:10 am
by SIDEWINDER
Things must really be screwed up. There's a company in Texas that prints blank checks for many banks. I found that Costco offers the same checks printed by the same company for half the price my banks wants. Instead of being the normal 7-10 days for delivery, they're saying 30 days.
Re: Texas Frozen Wind Turbines
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:51 pm
by Wildfire
SIDEWINDER link wrote:
Well, just like anything else in the times we now live in, some are now starting to point fingers at political parties or Environmental/clean energy for the Texas grid problems. Not really any different then Covid or anything else. I tend to look at other states that get much colder then Texas for longer periods of time so perhaps Texas needs to take a lesson from these other states.
Is it really true that some folds are now being gouged as much as $1000. per day for electricity?
Keep running your mouth! Your beloved socialist-communist California can't get anything right! So you sure don't have any room to run your mouth about other states.